Tuesday, October 05, 2010

warren dgnc 2010

so... i just listened to the rick warren video sermon from the desiring god national conference 2010.

i feel exhausted. words coming at me at at medium high intensity that continued with no variation for an hour. i feel yelled at. i also feel like i had a ton of principles and ideas dumped on me to such an overwhelming degree all i can do is concede his intellectual victory over me.

but i will not do that.

needless to say, feeling so exhausted from hearing it, i can't do much arguing for or against.

pros: some pithy, useful statements and principles.

cons: over pragmatic. too much information to process (despite his own statement that we're preached at too much to process in a week!). too dependent on ones own apprehension of principles and convictions; no dependence on the Holy Spirit. do do do. and if you are a doer, you need to think more.... which is in itself an action word -- another 'do'. his perspective is that he knows, his ways and methods are right, and leaves no room open for other views.

his comments regarding mental illness are absolutely reprehensible. it diminishes the legitimacy of real mental illnesses by comparing it to the normal complexities of thought-life and the effects of sin nature. i'm sorry; his statements are so full of ignorance of real mental illness that i can say that he has NOT seen the face of mental illness; he has seen what he thinks is mental illness but is NOT. i'm too angry on that point to write anymore right now.

i also found it to be incredibly lacking in integrity to say 'he hates it when people promote their own books at conferences' then proceeds to do exactly that. he too often says one thing then does another..... or says one thing, then completely contradicts himself in the next breath.

end result: aggravated. is he a false teacher? i don't think so.... but he's got some stuff majorly out of whack, which can, while sincerely meaning good, nevertheless fails to do what his primary call as a pastor is: preach the gospel. not..... give an exhortation to pull up one's bootstraps, and get off yer duff.

but then, the greek word for 'false prophet' is transliterated 'pseudo-prophet'.... and warren's pretty pseudo.... something.


~lynnie

**edit:  aaah.  pelagianism.  here's a better review than i can do!

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